Many decades ago an unknown US Marine officer, World War II combat vet and History professor turned freelance writer published a little book entitled Fighting Handguns. His name was John Dean “Jeff” Cooper.
This book was published well before the Modern Technique of the Pistol had been developed. In fact, Fighting Handguns, was published before Cooper organized the first Leatherslap shooting events held as a part of the annual Old Miner’s Days festival at Big Bear Lake in California and before he had met Jack Weaver.
Turn to page 97 of that old, pre-Modern Technique book and you will see what Cooper had to say about “pointer fire.”
“It’s an axiom that hitting your target is your main concern, and the best way to hit is to use your sights, but circumstances do arise in which the need for speed is so great, and the range so short, that you must hit by pointing alone, without seeing your gun at all.
Pointer fire is not as hard to learn as sighting, once you realize it’s range limitations. using the 1911 auto-pistol I have found that I can teach the average infantryman to stay on a silhouette at 10 yards – using pointer fire in two shot bursts – more easily that I can get him into that 25 yard bullseye using slow fire and sights.
Of course this sort of shooting is strictly a way of obtaining body hits at essentially indoor ranges ( 30 feet and under) …. But up close pointer fire can be murderously effective, and it’s mastery is often the difference between life and death.”
— Fighting Handguns, pages 97-98
Point shooting appears to be the antithesis of the Modern Technique and here is Cooper, the chief organizer and proponent of MT-type shooting, extolling the virtues of point shooting in print. What gives?
Cooper truly believed, as did most shooters of the time, that some form of point shooting was necessary for fast, close-in pistol shooting. In the opening years of the original Leatherslap competition nearly all of the participants used some form of point shooting technique, including Jeff Cooper and Jack Weaver.
Then, after a series of experiments and trials, Mr. Weaver tried something considered odd at the time. He decided to use both hands on his revolver and purposely use the sights to confirm alignment when shooting. Many of his fellow shooters ridiculed Weaver for his strange approach.
Until he started winning. Nearly every time. Weaver’s strange idea allowed him to consistently dominate for so long that everyone else trying to beat him eventually copied his approach.
David B. Monier-Williams
Aug 21, 2011 @ 18:08:37
Yes, but he continued to use what he called the, “speed rock.” He developed it but it fell into disuse as both IPSC and IDPA evolved. The reason is that neither of these two sports shoot at those real close distances. Further, no one except Kent Turnipseed knows how to shoot at those distances and above all can teach it. I’ve seen some cockamamy so-called instructors use both hands with the gun positioned at the sternum. By the time you get it there your throat’s been slit.
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John Veit
Aug 29, 2011 @ 12:29:44
Here’s a rather extended response that IMHO fits into the ongoing hubbub about SS Vs PS and competition Vs combat shooting in general.
The lead-in has been provided by Mr. Buol, I have taken the liberty to present what he has said in what I think is an objective and fair way.
A well known competition shooter and blogger had this to say about Sight Shooting Vs Point Shooting.
“Practical competition shooters use the techniques that have been proven to yield the fastest way to get consistent hits.”
“These methods will be discarded and another approach will be rapidly adopted provided the new method and its practitioners can first demonstrate superior results.”
“The reality is organized shooting programs have proven sighted shooting as faster for the trained shooter most of the time.”
Point shooting has merit in certain situations and should be a component of every pistolero’s repertoire but it is false to believe that it is the end-all, be-all of any form of shooting.”
“If the point shooting techniques …. were truly superior competition shooters would be flocking to them… But point shooters don’t win because they can’t. Not in most situations where speed and accuracy is measured.”
Now, I don’t doubt what was said as proof, is proof.
So why the continuing hubbub over SS and PS? What is it that some people just don’t get?
Well, the rub is that much of modern Police self defense shooting techniques flow from competition shooting techniques. And they are not like two peas in a pod. And thinking or saying so, won’t make it so.
If they were the same, all the crooks would be dead, in hospital, or in jail. Police casualty rates would be going down. And the over 80 per cent miss rate in armed encounters, would not be proof that they are not the same. That is, unless hits don’t matter in competition.
So, who’s to blame for this kettle of fish? The proven-in-competition shooting techniques which also are proven-to-fail-in-armed encounters, or the trainers, or both?
It’s way past time to stop playing games, and find out what shooting techniques are effective in self defense shooting situations, and let the chips fall where they may.
Here are the references mentioned at the start of this extended response:
[* IPSC/USPSA and IDPA Point Shooting August 13, 2011 –
https://firearmusernetwork.com/2011/08/13/ipsc-uspsa-idpa-point-shooting/ ]
[* Point Shooting vs. Sight Shooting June 19 2010 – https://firearmusernetwork.com/2010/06/19/point-shooting-vs-sight-shooting-2/ ]
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John M. Buol Jr.
Aug 30, 2011 @ 10:43:40
>> the rub is that much of modern Police self defense shooting techniques flow from competition shooting techniques
When you are a point shooting advocate engaged in shooting contests on man-sized targets at fighting distances and consistently lose against others using a different technique, should you change your technique toward what the winners are using or steadfastly continue with the failed approach?
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