Emil Praslick of the Army Marksmanship Unit comments on a proposed qualification course designed by the Asymmetric Warfare Group.
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/05/army_marksmanship_050408w/
Not really a fan. I’ve looked at this COF, and was worked with the first unit in BCT (basic training) to develop and implement it. First, you’re not training marksmanship, you’re running scenarios. They don’t spend enough time in Basic just teaching them the fundamentals without prematurely moving to other tasks.
The stoppage drill is a joke. The Privates know when it’s coming and simply rack out the dummy round (there’s no “specially designed” malfunctioning ammo) and continue. In this, the are actually negatively training on how to reduce a stoppage.
Everybody wants to be cool now, without having to perform actual instruction first.
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John Veit
Oct 15, 2012 @ 20:38:31
Here’s a link to the Army’s Rifle Marksmanship M16A1, M16A2/3, M16A4, and M4 carbine 2002 manual:
Click to access fm3_22x9c4%20(M16%20qual%20w%20change%204).pdf
Here’s a link to chapter 7 which deals with combat firing:
Click to access rifle7.pdf
Here’s a link to Rifle Quick Kill – US Army TT 23-71-1 which was a “Point Shooting” approach to rifle use, and taught to recruits enabling them to shoot and hit small aerial targets with a rifle; and that was before they were taught basic rifle marksmanship. Cheap and effective. http://pointshooting.com/1aqkrif.htm
I am a fan of Point Shooting for use in CQB situations as Sight Shooting can not be used in most all of them per the stats and studies, and an alternative is called for to better insure survival in IMHO.
But and however, here are links to the marksmanship portions of the Army and Marine Corps pistol manuals:
Click to access freearmy.pdf
Click to access freemar.pdf
And here’s a link to my brief on using Point Shooting:
http://pointshooting.com/1abrief.htm
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Colorado Pete
Oct 17, 2012 @ 22:51:00
Send them all to an Appleseed first!
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John M. Buol Jr.
Oct 18, 2012 @ 06:01:30
@John Veit
That’s all well and fine… until you need to shoot a rifle at targets more than 10-15 yards away.
Funny thing, the point shooting “quick” kill approach is slower than shooting with sights. Read the suggested standards in those manuals (you did read them, right?) and note how much slower this is than a skilled shooter participating in action/practical carbine and rifle competition.
Those events are freestyle and participants are free to chose whatever approach they like.
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John M. Buol Jr.
Oct 18, 2012 @ 06:03:10
@Colorado Pete
Agreed. Of course, the Appleseed course of fire is a National Match-derived course that was used at All Army.
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Christoph Kohring
Mar 28, 2013 @ 17:05:18
Nope, disagree, Appleseed is flawed.
Send them to Chuck Taylor (ASAA), Thunder Ranch, Gunsite, FrontSight, Defense Training International, Suarez International, Tactical Response, Insights Training or any other reputable shooting school first.
Appleseed puts too much emphasize on marksmanship/ accuracy/ precision & not enough on safety (4 rules/ weapon presentation/ hot range) & gunhandling.
Appleseed happens on a cold range doesn’t it? Totally unacceptable…
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John M. Buol Jr.
Mar 28, 2013 @ 17:21:53
>> Send them to Chuck Taylor (ASAA), Thunder Ranch, Gunsite, FrontSight, Defense Training International, Suarez International, Tactical Response, Insights Training or any other reputable shooting school
Those are also great options and, depending on the goal, quite probably even better training. Of course, Appleseed events are much more accessible and very inexpensive. They would do most gun owners a world of good and are certainly better than nothing.
>> Appleseed puts too much emphasize on marksmanship/ accuracy/ precision
This is like arguing designated marksman or sniper training is flawed for over emphasizing precision and not focusing enough on gun handling. Depends on the goal.
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