This excellent write up was by a competitive shooter and pawn shop owner that goes by “Flimflam” as to why he likes conventional shooting.
I’d be curious to know if you’ve ever been to Perry. Further, I’d be curious to know if you’ve completed their Small Arms Firing Course at the National Matches. I can understand why Perry might not be for everyone. I suppose it isn’t. However, I’d not throw the baby out with the bath water.
After some study years ago about the origins of the bullseye target, and why it is used, I came to the conclusion – for myself, anyway – that it is a pretty good system used to teach basic marksmanship. It is a good thing to focus on a small bullseye, while trying to perfect sight alignment, trigger control, numb fingers from a tight sling, sweat from the heat, and fatigue. It is a LOT harder than it looks.
While on my institution’s pistol team years ago, I was required to shoot in bullseye competition, as well as my chosen style: PPC. I hated bullseye, until I started competing. Much to my surprise, my group size in combat began to shrink as my bullseye scores increased. Imagine that. That started me on my road to an informal research into target types, and the everasking, “why?” The Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice, was set up, yes, to increase our readiness as a nation to defend ourselves in time of war. Until the latter half of the past century, when politicians decided that we shouldn’t win our wars, it worked rather well. There is nothing wrong with the Perry competitions. If you want to play gymnastics with a rifle, then go check out 3 Gun, USPSA and other groups that sponsor practical competitions. Have fun. Get involved. If change is what you desire, then try to affect change.
My own experience at Perry, has been nothing but a great time. Thousands of shooters from everywhere, each there for a common goal – to compete, and improve one’s skill level. I’d venture to say you have never been on a 600-1000 yard range, and competed. Yup, we even know what range it is, and still can’t ‘clean’ the target. I’d wager you can’t either. Again, it’s a LOT harder than it seems. You probably don’t do very well on the 200, and 300 rapid fire, and offhand courses as well. I don’t recall seeing your name in the American Rifleman’s list of winners at Perry, either. As far as equipment goes, you can compete very well with a standard AR-15/M1-A, M1-Garand, and have a great time. You don’t need a 20lb “match” rifle to go.
The John C.Garand Match was set up for just that reason. Not everyone can afford match rifles.
I can’t speak for you, but I absolutely WOULD NOT want to stand in front of ANYONE with a rifle, that was even a “place” winner at Perry. If you would rather shoot on the run, at moving targets, or any other scenario you could think up – again, have fun. Coming on this group, and bad mouthing Perry and the other type of matches, just because YOU don’t like that kind of shooting, is being, in my opinion, irresponsible as a firearm owner. Nothing much gets accomplished by attacking other people’s hobbies. After reading your post, I see that you don’t like Olympic shooting, Perry, Cowboy matches, combat/falling plate matches, air gun matches, and disagree with certain classes of firearms that are allowed in certain matches at Perry and High Power Rifle matches.
Wow. That kinda narrows down what is left and available to you to compete in. By the by, Perry does host matches where you actually get to play “army”. You can run to a “foxhole”, and shoot your “assault weapon”, at various unknown ranges at pop up targets, that are only viewed for a few seconds. If that is your idea of realism, then there ya go. Join the Friends of Camp Perry and they’ll let you know when they are competing :-)
I sincerely hope you find an area that will make you happy, but somehow, I sadly doubt it. Thousands of firearm lovers yearly, have a great time at the matches where you turn your nose up. Why can’t you?
Colorado Pete
Apr 12, 2014 @ 00:17:31
Way back in ’91 when I decided to re-start my moribund handgun shooting, I did exclusively one-hand bullseye. It forced me to focus intently on each necessary fundamental so that I got off again on the right track for the core skills of aiming and pressing.
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David B. Monier-Williams
Apr 12, 2014 @ 15:09:07
Yes, Bullseye is where basic marksmanship is learned and Perry it’s ultimate champion decider. I started with it under the tutelage of Retd. Capt. Art Dann. He was the former head of 3rd Army MU. He also trained the first All Woman’s Pistol Team to shoot a Perry. It made the front page of the AR. Not to forget the invaluable tips from Bill Allard, the partner of Joe Cirello.
Art went on to teach me and others in the Buffalo area ISU in RF, Std. CF, FP and Air Pistol. Then I added Bill Blankenship, Barbara Hile and Aubrey Smith all of AMU as ISU trainers. A week at AMU was invaluable training too.
Finally, age crept up on me I tried IPSC and was sick, tried IDPA couldn’t get it with all it’s limiting rules.
So I settled for Kent Turnipseed, much to John Buol’s chagrin.
It all started with the basics…Bullseye. With that as your foundation, you can go on to whatever strikes your fancy.
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John M. Buol Jr.
Apr 12, 2014 @ 22:26:01
– Phil Hemphill
10 time National Police Shooting Champion
2011 National Conventional Pistol Champion
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John M. Buol Jr.
Apr 12, 2014 @ 22:35:58
Not at all! Shoot however you like. The point of contests is to find who and what tends to perform best. Regardless, any safe shooter is welcome.
Well said! Good fundamentals translate to good skills wherever your interests take you.
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