Finger Roll
by John Tate
“Finger roll” is my term, but the flaw is far from limited to me.
I conducted a short firearms class this week. Regarding “GRIP,” one of the comments I made about a two handed grip was, “Watch the fingers. If a shooter hasn’t built a good grip, they will rebuild it between shots.
The video at the link below shows this well, mainly with a two-hand grip, but also a few times with a one-hand grip. Be sure to watch the segment after the two-minute mark. The lady is worse when she doesn’t have the extended 30-round magazine to hold.
http://theshrug.net/she-takes-the-glock-26-to-the-range-for-some-fun/
What’s the problem? Poorly built grip.
What’s the effect? Lost time for follow-on shots.
What’s the remedy? Build a good, solid grip and HOLD it.
Finally, watch other shooters; if they do this, odds are they don’t know they doing it. You will help them if you tell them.
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Ted Sames II
Apr 29, 2015 @ 11:58:51
Very attractive young lady! But I paid attention to the gun handling characteristics to best that I could! The legs offered a good stance but she should have leaned forward slightly. Should have taken more rest stops. She did what I called the ‘butterfly’: the grip was never secure or consistent with tips of fingers fluttering after every shot. One grip style was on the extended mag and the other was a type of ‘old cup and saucer’.. .The head was positioned and leaning to the right–was she using her left eye?. She was getting very tired and began a few trigger jerks-anticipation of recoil segment…She being right handed, placed the pistol in her left hand and operated the slide with her right hand. She might have at one point placed her finger on the trigger during slide pull-release. I would have only allowed her one shot at a time…then 2….then 3. Still with 3 or 4 rounds, I would do ‘ball and dummy’ with many many rest stops. This is critical for a new shooter. When they become tired–STOP and relax. We are learning a skill and not a marathon to shoot fast and then go home. In 50 rounds–2 hours classroom and 2 hours at the range–most people can learn quite well. I tell the student that each round is GOLD and the first 25 are shot single fashion. This also teaches them to release the mag and load the mag, and re-insert to create muscle memory (I hate that term). In the first 25, I will start doing ball and dummy and continue in some form through the entire 50 rounds. The air gun target is set at 3 yards…the bullseye being 1/4″ in diameter. Their job is to clover leaf all their shots. I ‘set their sights high’ with a tiny target for a number of reasons: Both I and the student can easily see the results without strain. Shooting cloverleafs at 3 to 5 yards would be similar to shooting a 2 x 4 at 100 yards. After the clover leafs…I have them shoot out the staples that hold the target on the backer. They can do it if the instructor is a good teacher. Shooting out the staples requires concentration with rounds 51 through 60. It brings about a great sense of achievement. About 10% of police instructors can do this. Isn’t this good from a “Instinctive shooting method” Instructor. The basic have to be learned FIRST. Ted A Sames II, SISSTRAINING.COM
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John M. Buol Jr.
Apr 29, 2015 @ 12:01:46
TL;DR
Good instructors stress learning fundamentals before other things.
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