Notes on High Power Prone

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From J. C. Tate, CDR USN (Ret.) – Distinguished in 1991



A good prone position is a make-or-break position - for one thing 300 of 500 points are prone.  Also, they say you win at offhand and lose at 600.  I can't argue with that either.  And, as you say, prone ought to be the most stable, all bone & sling, no muscle, relaxed position ... if you build a good one.  How do you know if it's good?  When you fire a shot, your rifle will naturally, effortlessly settle back almost where it was before the shot broke.

Of course, that last comment applies to sitting rapid too.  Which is why I see good shooters spending up to 30 seconds in sitting and 35 in prone rapid, just to build a good, relaxed, natural-point-of-aim position.

That said, here are my comments.  My context is for a right handed shooter.  I am mainly thinking of service rifle/EIC shooting, that's almost all I did.  Also, I shot M1/M14, so recoil was much more an issue than with M16/M4:
  1. Get your sling as high up on your left upper arm as possible. (A bit of spray adhesive will help keep it from slipping down.)
  2. Put the rifle’s forend on the bones where your hand meets your forearm; your fingers should be ‘floppy loose,’ not gripping the forend at all. Position your support/left elbow as close to directly under the rifle as possible. A perfectly vertical support arm is easy to duplicate. If your elbow is not under the rifle, any amount of variance will move the point of impact; if that variance is not the same, your point of impact will also vary. You may need to roll slightly on your left side to get your elbow under the rifle. If that’s the case, then pull your right elbow closer into your side … if possible, dig it into the ground a bit to help avoid slipping on recoil.
  3. Depending on what sort of shooting jacket is allowed (if any) use your shooting/right hand to position the butt well into the chest-shoulder ‘pocket.’ When you then move that shooting hand forward to grip the small of the stock, the pocket will tighten and your jacket folds will grip the stock and help hold it in place. (A little spray adhesive on the butt and on your jacket will help prevent slipping too.)
  4. After building this solid position, you will need to refine it to achieve a relaxed, natural-point-of-aim. To do this:
    a. First wiggle your hips to get as close as possible to that relaxed, on-target position.
    b. If your sights aren’t dead on, slide your right foot to the left or right a bit to move the muzzle in the opposite direction. (Try it! This works for a gentle, lateral adjustment.)
  5. Three peripheral comments. Practice getting into prone, then getting up, and getting down … until you have a reliable routine. When practicing getting into a good prone position, don’t forget to do it with your scorebook and shooting scope so that you know where to place them for use with little or no movement. Finally, practice dry fire with a helper whacking the muzzle to simulate recoil and consistent, on-target recovery. (On an M1/M14, the helper can hit the oprod to cycle the action.)
    I hope these are helpful. They helped me!

More: https://www.gunpowdermagazine.com/high-power-service-rifle-advice-for-building-your-prone-position/

John Tate on “Assault Rifles”

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1. “Assault weapons” have several characteristics: the two main ones are low power & selective fire. Functionally, these interact. Selective fire means either semi- or full-automatic fire are options. Low power so the arm is controllable in full-auto mode.

2. Accurate, full-auto firing is a non-sequitur. Single shots are for specific targets; full-auto is in fact an area weapon. And becoming effective with full-auto is: (a) very expensive in ammunition consumed and barrels ‘shot out,’ (b) it’s by physics, inaccurate – which is why we call it ‘spray and pray,’ (c) and of little avail for the casual or sport shooter … because of a & b.

3. Given any level of proficiency, a manually operated rifle (e.g., a bolt gun) and a semi-auto have about the same capability for aimed fire. Want a demo? Here are links to some Norwegian competitions. The first link is just to a bolt gun shooter (using the 1890’s vintage Krag-Jorgenson action). The second & third are not only a face-to-face competitions between bolt guns and semi-autos, but the bolt guns win! #3 also features lady shooters! They are deadly accurate!! Watch Jenny Stene and her bolt gun. (Note: she pulls the trigger with her ring finger.)


(at 5:25 is a Krag shooter)
(at 7:40 is a semi-auto competing against bolt guns; note the bolt guns shoot faster, Miss Stene wins the round AND beats the gas gun.)

4. I won’t belabor the point … beyond this: I was a competitive highpower rifle shooter for 10 years. I used an M14. (It was the “assault weapon” predecessor of the M16. It wasn’t practical for full-auto because it fired the .308/7.62 cartridge … too powerful for controlled full-auto fire.) I often shot against bolt guns. With a skilled shooter, the bolt guns won because they (a) fired just as fast, and (b) were more accurate.

5. The gross ignorance of the media and their hyperbole of presentation AND the general ignorance of the man-on-the-street and consequent vulnerability to the media distortions are what has propelled the AR-15 to such depths of public disdain. Indomitable ignorance is far more dangerous than ARs!

If it looks silly, but works … it ain’t silly

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Notes from Rifle Fundamentals: Breath and Hold Control

It is said that 600 yards separates the men from the boys. Maybe, but for me, offhand shooting is hardest. The illustration at the head of the article linked below shows two tools to make offhand a bit steadier.

1. Hip support for the support elbow. Yes, both male and female usually need to push the forward hip out to get better support. Looks silly – but it works.

2. Note how far back toward the trigger guard is the shooter’s support hand. (In fact, I use the trigger guard for my forward support.) What does this accomplish? The longer the moment arm, the slower the oscillation. This characteristic of oscillations is most commonly observed in grandfather clocks. And, like a clock, put a bigger weight at the end of the moment arm and oscillations will again slow.

One more ancillary comment – the article is about breathing. But while breathing and getting oxygen for your muscles and brain, you can use that time to improve your ability to see.

1. Blinking your eyes will spread basal tears that will keep your cornea clean, clear, nourished and lubricated.

2. Simply closing your eyes, or looking at something green, will help the retina recover from your eyes previous staring at the sights & target. The relatively long term and intense fixed staring at black-and-white sights and target will ‘burn’ these images into the retina, making the ability to discriminate these a bit harder. The remedy – look somewhere restful, or simply close your shooting eye.

By the way – the comments above about moment arm and eye sensitivity recovery apply to all phases of shooting, not just offhand.

More:
https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2018/1/8/rifle-fundamentals-breath-and-hold-control/

Lones Wigger: 1937-2017

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“The will to win is really better stated as the will to prepare to win. In shooting, it’s persistence that pays the biggest dividends—constant, steady practice, week in and week out, all year long. I truly believe that anyone can be a champion marksman if they work at it long and hard enough.”

– Lones Wigger, LTC, USA (Ret)

COL Lones Wigger was a four-time Olympian and the most decorated shooter in the world.

Legends: Lones Wigger 1937-2017
by Hap Rocketto

https://www.ssusa.org/articles/2017/12/15/legends-lones-wigger-1937-2017/

Czech government tells its citizens how to fight terrorists: Shoot them yourselves

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Guns from a previously held firearms surrender are displayed at police headquarters in Manchester, England. (Andrew Yates/Reuters) [Editor's Note: I'm noticing a few non-firing orange and blue guns turned in to the firearms surrender.]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/06/czech-government-tells-its-citizens-how-to-fight-terrorists-shoot-them-yourselves/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/czech-government-citizens-how-to-fight-terrorism-a7515671.html
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Safety – Safariland 7390 holster

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From John Tate.

Please immediately discontinue the use of the Safariland Holster 7390. A problem has been identified when holstering the weapon. During the holstering procedure, it is possible for a small piece of the holster, located internally (pictured below), to catch the tip of the trigger and move it towards the rear. While we do not believe it possible for the trigger to travel far enough to cause the weapon to fire, such movement clearly should not occur at all.

Safariland has been notified of the problem and is actively working on a solution.

Please advise your personnel to immediately discontinue the use of this holster and return to the holster that they were using prior to the 7390.

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Winchester WinLite slugs

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A report from John Tate.
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Tate on Training

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Friendly Fire A Hazard To Nuclear Sites?

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From John Tate

Speer didn’t oppose the use of more powerful weaponry to protect the plants, documents show. His concern was that officers get sufficient training to avoid missed shots and inadvertently creating larger problems, no matter which weapons they carried.

We sometimes joke about the poor marksmanship and spray-and-pray tactics of some police. But such conduct usually only poses a hazard to bystanders, other officers … oh, and sometimes the bad guy. But what if the recipient of these stray rounds was a functional nuclear power plant where release of radioactive materials, or even a core melt down could endanger hundreds of thousands?

That is the focus of the article linked below; it’s thought provoking.
http://www.ocregister.com/taxdollars/nuclear-715262-security-nrc.html

Interestingly enough, the “nationally recognized course” referred to for their qualification is a 100 yard National Match Course (the NRA High Power rule book is explicitly mentioned as a part of their standard qualification) and NRA PPC with B-27 targets for pistol.

http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/cfr/part073/part073-appb.html

NMC shooting with the M1 Garand

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The sitting and prone rapid fire stages of the National Match Course were changed to a two and eight sequence when John Garand’s M1 became our issue service rifle. Given the design’s eight round en block clip, loading with eight is obviously no issue. Setting up two rounds can be accomplished without too much fuss by twisting the cartridges in a standard clip. Given this is done before record time begins, it may be fiddly but not a major hassle.

Here’s how to make this procedure easier:

How to make two-round Garand clips
http://www.fulton-armory.com/%5Cfaqs%5CM1G-FAQs%5C2clip.htm

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/1895311304/aggressive-engineering-m1-garand-clip-steel-parkerized

Handling single rounds for the slow fire phase remains awkward. John Tate explains how to make this more convenient.

It’s nice to see all the emphasis on M1 shooting and use in competition. One awkward aspect was loading for slow fire prone. Then I was given a “single shot clip.” What a wonderful assist!

The essence is a standard M1 clip is modified so that it can be inserted into an otherwise empty M1 receiver, where it remains due to a lip that catches on the side of the receiver “rail.” Then, with the bold locked to the rear, the follower in combination with the clip’s lips (R or L) will retain a cartridge just as would an M14 magazine.

To shoot, just push in a cartridge, and release the bolt in the identical fashion to an M14.

If you were an M1 shooter, you would understand what a blessing this is, especially in prone where inserting a cartridge is a pain (it will slip back out due to the muzzle being elevated), or tripping the bolt (just plain awkward in prone).

M1 Garand single shot sled:

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