Rare Birds In New York City

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Rare Birds In New York City
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On Stubbornness and the Luger

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Aimed Point and Shoot Training Methods

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The following guest article was written and submitted by John Veit.

We welcome a variety of points of view on the subjects of shooting and marksmanship. Test them objectively on the range and let the results fall where they may.

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NYPD And LAPD Shooting Effectiveness

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The following guest article was written and submitted by John Veit.

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Point Shooting vs. Sight Shooting – Handgun Training Effectiveness

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Point shooting advocates often tout various miss rate claims among officers, typically showcasing New York Police Department studies as “proof” that training to learn any sort of two hand, eye level shooting technique is ineffective.

Point shooting techniques were understood and taught long before any two hand, eye level shooting technique was commonly taught. In fact, most point shooting advocates recommend trainers and techniques from decades ago as the better way.

Given that point shooting has been used as a primary approach in the past, what sort of success rates did point shooting-trained personnel enjoy? Would a point shooting-trained force fare any better than the NYPD?

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Typing and Shooting

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John Veit, a regular guest author here and point shooting advocate, tells why he believes point shooting is viable for many gun owners, as well as police and soldiers.

 

 Instructors and others who shoot thousands of rounds a year, are not representative of the average shooter IMHO, and as such what they say one should do, may not be what the average shooter should do.

This is possibly the best synopsis I’ve read about this issue and is very telling. Working with soldiers, cops, hunters and others who aren’t really shooters they probably won’t go to the range unless forced (annual qual, pre-season sight-in). I know a rookie cop could develop a solid base of skill if they made the effort to perform a simple dry practice series every day they went on duty. It takes minimal time and a year of it would show real results. I put it out in each academy class I help teach, but I suspect many don’t bother.

When I talk about the “best technique” I refer to the best known possible approach. Competition is great for assessing this. However, this may not be the best approach for someone unwilling to do the work necessary to imbed that level of skill.

I liken it to using a keyboard or typewriter. Clearly, the fastest approach is touch typing but hunt-and-peck is more natural and quicker to learn for new person. For the person willing to put in the work, touch typing (and aimed shooting) is clearly the superior approach. Any doubts can be proven by measurement in a formal test. For those not willing or able to practice, hunt-and-peck (and point shooting) has value.

Jim Cirillo and CQB Shooting Methods

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Here are other Point Shooting vs. Sight Shooting articles worth checking out as well:

Colonel Rex Applegate on Point Shooting

The Connection Between Combat and Range Results

Point Shooting vs. Sight Shooting (counterpoint to the article below)

Jeff Cooper on Point Shooting

LEO Pistol Qualification

Point Shooting vs. Sight Shooting – Handgun Training Effectiveness
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The following guest article was written and submitted by John Veit.

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NRA Guide To The Basics Of Personal Protection In The Home

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Sturm, Ruger VP and General Counsel Slams P&S

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Flying Saucers, Sight Shooting and Self Defense

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