Low skilled people continue to whine about standards drills as not being realistic, tactically relevant, or being a “circus trick.” What they’re really doing is attempting to conceal lack of skill, either their own or others. Rather than blame a lack of fundamental skill for a poor result, it’s easier to blame the evaluation for the poor showing. The fact that such a test is known in advance only serves to make it easier.
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Circus Trick
June 15, 2017
SensibleShooter, Video circus trick, Jake Di Vita, Nick Saiti, tactical training, training, Travis Tomasie Leave a comment
Operator vs. Competitor Gun Reliability
November 1, 2016
Shooting American Pistol Institute, Defense Training International, Gunsite, John Farnam, maintenance/cleaning, rooney gun, tactical training, Travis Tomasie Leave a comment
“At our monthly pistol match last weekend, our courageous (and now unpopular) match director included an optional thirty-round course of fire, exclusively for legitimate concealed-carry pistols. The only requirement was that the gun, and ammunition, used had to be one that the participant carries regularly. He said, ‘Let’s use what you’re carrying, right now, what you would have to rely upon to save your life… right now!’ No ‘match-guns,’ nor ‘race-guns’ were allowed.
Of the ten who participated, only three ‘carry’ guns functioned normally through thirty rounds!
The rest (all semi-autos) malfunctioned continuously, including light hits, mis-feeds, and failure to go fully into battery. These guns had all been carried in a pocket or concealed holster and were all dirty, full of lint and other debris. Some magazine springs were weak.
It was an eye-opener, especially for those whose guns would not function. To a person, they all piously swore, amid their embarrassment, that they cleaned their guns regularly, but that was obvious a self-serving lie. It was also obvious these guns were seldom, if ever, actually fired before that afternoon.”
http://defense-training.com/dti/readiness/
http://defense-training.com/dti/more-on-pistol-matches/
Let’s pretend this little episode actually occurred as stated and implied.
- Potential win for all involved. We learned something when the only thing at stake was a score. Good thing to test and find out before it causes actual problems. A good shooter making a mistake at a match can take it as a learning point and fix it.
- There’s a skill difference between competitors and participants. I’ve met plenty of D-class USPSA participants that have been attending matches for over a decade. No mention of the event specifics or attendees so no way to know.
- It’s foolish to think this problem is somehow isolated to people at matches. Has he never been on a military or police range? Or ranges with people that never attend matches? How many stoppages occur at “operator” classes? Here are some examples of students at Gunsite posted by Gunsite on their Facebook page:
Tactical class malfunction 1:
https://www.facebook.com/GunsiteAcademy/videos/10153547963679453
Tactical class malfunction 2:
https://www.facebook.com/GunsiteAcademy/videos/10153935592494453/
Tactical class malfunction 3:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLCAnMjD0mI/
But this claim mostly reeks of typical unsubstantiated “games’ll getcha killed” nonsense. This unicorn event that apparently didn’t have a physical location, date, name, or affiliation will appease those that have never attended an actual match into continuing the delusion that such events are “bad.”
>> Most had never been fired, even once, until that day! … To be sure, all ten pistols were badly neglected and dirty
Both claims are made in different places between these posts. So we’re to believe brand new, never-fired pistols have magically become so dirty, fouled, and spring-weakened as to cause stoppages.
We’re also to believe shooters serious enough to regularly attend an organized, scored, no-alibi shooting discipline are unaware of the need to check if their equipment is reliable. And that said shooters would have guns for regular carry readily available but never bother to shoot them ever. Because we all know how competitive shooters hate to shoot. Especially when these regular match shooters intend to participate in a scored side match with said gun.
>> My carry guns, pistols and rifles, are all designed and built for serious purposes. Few ‘modifications.’ Most are ‘out-of-the-box.’ I wouldn’t win a typical pistol match with any of them!
Service Conditions matches require as-issue gear. NO modifications are allowed, not even the ‘few’ this fellow uses. Nearly every discipline has a stock or production category available that stipulates using exactly what this fellow uses. There is not that big of gulf when comparing open match guns to production guns as this fellow ignorantly implies. Here are the numbers:
https://firearmusernetwork.com/race-guns-vs-regular-guns/
Stock or production-legal guns are carry-appropriate and effectively identical to what’s advocated here. He wouldn’t win a typical pistol match with any of them because he lacks the fundamental skill to do so.
Oh, and here’s what a skilled competitive shooter can actually do with a sub-compact .380 from concealment.
Competition Skill Carry Over
July 15, 2016
Video Precision Response Training, Remington RM380, Thomas Howard, Travis Tomasie 2 Comments
There are people that wrongly claim there is no use or carry over of skill from competitive events and equipment to “real world” or other places.
Here’s an example of a skilled competitive shooter using a Remington RM380 subcompact .380 pistol shot from concealment.
Here is another top competitive shooter demonstrating with his actual carry gear:
Many of these defensive/tactical classes are a few days long. Is anyone so stupid as to believe a person with well-developed, demonstrably higher skill such as this couldn’t absorb that knowledge as well or better than anyone else taking such a class, especially compared to the novice-level shooters in attendance at such classes?
What makes you certain this or any other competitive shooter hasn’t already learned and studied such skills? Just because a specific tactical idea wasn’t tested or demonstrated in a specific range exercise or competitive event doesn’t mean the competitors aren’t aware of them.
Skill Development and the Real World
December 3, 2015
SensibleShooter Deadeye Steve, El Presidente, Force Science Institute, Precision Response Training, The Deadeye Method, Thomas Howard, Travis Tomasie Leave a comment
It all came together… for once.
Didya ever notice how it’s not hard to nail a reload, not hard to nail the draw, not hard to fire 6 fast accurate shots, but all together with 6 more accurate shots?
Yeah, not that easy.
Which puts the foolish bleating from self-appointed tactical experts about why a drill like this isn’t useful into perspective.
Yes, the skills involved are elementary. Yes, the targets and scenario are known in advance. It should be easy. Overcoming the various gremlins involved make it a challenge.
Consistently performing this drill under 10 seconds with all centered hits indicates sufficient skill to shoot at the “speed of life.” The performance above is twice that fast.
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Slow Motion Pistol Shot
August 19, 2015
Video 1911, Adam Savage, John Tate, Mythbusters, Travis Tomasie Leave a comment
Sent in from John Tate.
Not mentioned is the shooter during the slow motion portion is practical competition shooter Travis Tomasie